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Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.03 02:12:00 -
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The attacks directed at "nano" ships have gotten out of hand.
Flying nano isn't about going 6000+m/s, it's about choosing engagements and flying by the seat of you pants.
How many t1 cruisers go 6000+? Stabber? How many t1 BC go 6000+? How many t1 BS go "nano" fast? None, CCP nerfed that without spending billions of isk on pirate implants and faction ships/items.
I fly nano, I die a lot, I love every minute of it.
If you fly nano, and love every minute of it, stand up and be heard! The naysayers would have speed completely removed from the game, I say screw that. Eve is complex, removing an entire facet of the game would be dooming small gang pvp.
Tell your stories of nano glory and tragedy! Let pod pilots everywhere know how hard it is to lose your faction fit MWD, or Pirate implants, or supped up HAC.
BE HEARD! DON'T LET NANO DIE! Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.03 02:34:00 -
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I fitted out a hyena with faction gear and polycarbs.
Gistii a-type and all.
Sucker went 7800 unheated. And I could web people at 20km.
OOOOOOH it was a sweet ship.
300 mil isk frigate. How many whiners would spend 300 mil on a frig?
Lost it to t2 180 autos. SOMEHOW got the faction MWD back.
in less then 2 seconds I lost 130 mil. in ship/rigs.
How many Battle ship pilots can claim that? Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.03 02:48:00 -
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Edited by: Megan Maynard on 03/04/2008 02:49:18
Originally by: *****zilla
Originally by: Megan Maynard
300 mil isk frigate.
Most for a nano nerf *actually* want to encourage frig use. The intent is to tone down fast buffer tanked cruisers/battleships and encourage ceptor, eas, af usage. Frigs *should* go fast.
You realize there are command ships out there that can go faster? What would you do versus a speed fitted battleship with implants and neuts? As it stands a nano Huginn would be a better choice if you want to web.
Hyena is more maneuverable. Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:25:00 -
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I like where this thread is going. First off, Erotic Irony has posted in it, so you know it's legit. Second, we got rick rolled. And third, I'm hearing a about Ishtar's, Mach's, and Vaga's.
Vaga's only go 15 km/s when they over heat and have pirate snakes. That's a 1.1 bil isk HAC. The guy could have bought a capital ship. The Mach set-up costs 4-5 BILLION. And it's FACTION. Why should it be easier to kill? You ever see a faction fit CNR or GOLEM? Those things can tank out the ass. Same difference. Ishtar can only go around 4000. That is not out of missile hit range or guns. Nano ishtar isn't broke, you can still hit it pretty damn good.
We need more cost for losing your nano ship stories, the whiners can't argue against that. (Because they look like morons for suggesting their 80 mil isk BC should PWN a nano fit ceptor that has fitting twice the value of that BC.) Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth The problem with nano setups is that they flat-out invalidate most other ships and setups, making them useless for PvP. For instance, I almost never get to use my AC maelstrom as a direct consequence of it being absolutely useless against a nano gang...and nano gangs are just about the only things you see where I live.
So, to all you nanoers: DIAF.
Your in a battleship. Your guns have a sig radius of 400. 400!!!!
Why should you hit a ship that is small and fast? Because you shouldn't you dolt, it's called balance. You just want the old days back where a tempest could come in a spank anything.
Get some support and qft. Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: Lars Vegaz Its not like its imposible to kill nanoships, hell get a webb on them and see them go popp,or a neutralizer lol to actually have to explain this speaks volumes of what kind of pvp'ers who wants to see the nano go.
Near as I can tell from reading this thread is that is the crux of the matter. You can keep nanoships at bay but you cannot really kill them without another nano ship. Webbing, neuting and so on only send a message to the nano pilot to warp out which they almost certainly are able to do.
Seriously people, if you see the game evolving into two setups, nanoships and Capships Online, then something is broken. The balance is missing. Many setups should be viable.
For all that PvPers strut their stuff and laugh at carebears most PvPers are as risk averse as any carebear you care to mention. Are Vagabonds high DPS pwnmobiles? Nope. Uber tanks? Nope. Fleet boosters? Nope. What they can do very well is get away. As noted before there is no way someone would fit a multi-billion cruiser as their regular PvP ship unless they were either spectacularly wealthy, stupid or had a very good faith belief that with that ship they will never die.
I think the general feeling among the anti-nano crowd is if you come to the game you put your money on the table and risk it like everyone else. Of course escape should always be a part of tactics but never near guaranteed escape. Sometimes you get away and sometimes you do not as it should be.
Effective invulnerability is anathema to EVE (and yes I know nano ships die but it is usually to other nano ships or pilot error).
Cap and nano ships online? Forget about the miners, haulers, ratters, mission runners, small pvp, exploration......................
I like how you conveniently left out all other aspects of the game because you want your 50 man gang to be uber enough to kill one fast ship. Or was it something else? Your argument is flawed. And join a corp all ready. (That or man up and post with a main.) Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.03 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar Just the fact that people invest several hundred millions to billions in their pvp setups shows that the tactics are overpowered. They wouldn't put that many eggs in one basket if the loss of them were anywhere likely.
Yes, yes they would. Do your realize how much isk a nano pilot goes thru? We do lose ships, and it hurts teh walletz. Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.03 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus Nerf nano ships. They're the new stabs.
Did you read the post?
Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.04 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: Pithecanthropus Nanos unite? hahaaa... nothing like a room full of weeny gamers.
Face it... nanos will be nerfed. Deal with it.
I see you listen to the dev blogs. QFT. They aren't nerfing speed at all, just ships that aren't supposed to go fast.
The point of the post is that "nano" seems to have this giant bullzeye on it atm, and that's not fair, or right at all. Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit.
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Megan Maynard
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Posted - 2008.04.04 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus
Originally by: Megan Maynard
Originally by: Scoundrelus Nerf nano ships. They're the new stabs.
Did you read the post?
Just the title.
Thanks, ignorance is bliss isn't it? Miz Stelth Bomerz iz the ****nit. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
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